Friday, April 17, 2009

Victoria Strauss -- Lulu Acquires Poetry.com

Until very recently, www.Poetry.com was the Internet home of the infamous International Library of Poetry (ILP), the nation's premier (and I use that adjective with irony) vanity poetry anthologizer. But in early March, the Poetry.com domain was purchased by self-publishing service Lulu.

Why was the domain for sale? According to Wikipedia, "Publish Today and Noble House Books, the branches of Poetry.com that managed the publishing and printing of their books, have gone out of business." Wikipedia is never the most reliable resource, but Lulu appears to confirm this report on the new Lulu Poetry website: "Lulu.com, an award winning Internet company, recently purchased the URL 'www.poetry.com' from the previous failed business that owned it."

Here's PW's coverage of the purchase. And here's Lulu's rather arch press release.

I covered the vanity anthology scheme recently in a post on brand-new vanity anthologizer Eber & Wein, but briefly, here's how it works. The anthology company places ads in various high-visibility publications announcing a free poetry contest, with cash prizes for the finalists and guaranteed publication for finalists and semi-finalists. Everyone who submits is declared a semi-finalist, no matter the quality of their poem. The company then hits them up for money: $40 or $50 to buy the anthology, plus, often, substantial fees for "extras"--adding a biography to the anthology, having the poem mounted on a plaque, attending a big bash poetry convention...the list goes on. It's not exactly a scam, since if you buy something you do receive it--but the anthologies never see the inside of a bookstore (despite the companies' claims), and because there's no editorial gatekeeping, they are not regarded as a legitimate publishing credit.

So should we be rejoicing at the demise of a major deceptive scheme that for decades has been relieving inexperienced writers of their cash? Will Lulu use that bad old domain to turn over a new poetic leaf? Or will it be vanity anthology business as usual?

Lulu's press release claims that it is completely overhauling and rebuilding the domain. Granted, it's early days, but the new Lulu Poetry website doesn't so far show much sign of overhauling. It's got a new template, but otherwise is very similar to the old Poetry.com (courtesy of the Internet Archive), with many of the same categories (Greatest Love Poems, Need Help Rhyming?, Test Your Poetry IQ, etc.) and much of the same content. The 9/11 Poetry sections differ only in the number of posted poems. The Poetic Techniques section of the old website is identical to that of the new--including several articles by Len Roberts, who was Educational Director for the ILP, in charge of its fake poetry association/convention division, the International Society of Poets.

The free contest has changed, however. The annual prize amount has dropped from $10,000 to $5,000, and a daily prize of $25 has been added. And while much of the verbiage of the contest rules remains unchanged from the old website to the new, a community ratings element has been added to the judging, with (unnamed) judges selecting winners "from among the top 10% of poems with the highest daily, monthly and yearly ratings by the community."

Most significant, Lulu has removed the following language from the contest guidelines: "Additionally, various promotions are conducted from time to time." This innocuous-sounding sentence covered the ILP's shilling of anthologies and other products to contest "semifinalists." And compare the old Poetry.com FAQ, which includes an entire section on anthologies, to the new Lulu version, in which there's no mention of anthologies at all. A response from a Lulu staff member in the Lulu forums makes this explicit: "For the record, the 'crap poetry anthologies' have already ended and we have no interest in starting them again."

So it would appear that Lulu plans to discontinue the vanity anthology portion of the business (it does offer publishing services to poets--but it's a self-publishing service, after all, and there's no linkage to the contests). Nor could I find any evidence that Lulu plans to retain any of the ILP's associated vanity-style activities--the International Society of Poets convention website, for instance, now defaults to Lulu Poetry.

This is good news--although we shouldn't get too comfortable. Any gap that might be left by the demise of the ILP will easily be filled by any of the many other vanity anthologizers still in business--or by the new ones, such as Eber & Wein. There's also the question of whether Lulu can transcend the toxic associations of the notorious URL it has acquired. There's some bitter discussion of this in the Lulu forums, and Lulu is clearly aware of the problem--a followup article in PW quotes Lulu's PR Director, Gail Jordan, who notes that "people have been contacting Lulu with questions about its association with Poetry.com’s former incarnation and that the company is 'trying to be very transparent and be very up-front' about the difference." Given the shortness of the public attention span, my guess is that the bad memories will soon fade. But only time will tell.

A final note: though this doesn't seem to have been officially announced, Whois records indicate that Lulu has also taken ownership of several other domains associated with the ILP: www.Poets.com (the ILP's social networking website, which remains unchanged); www.Picture.com, a.k.a. the International Library of Photography (the ILP's vanity photography counterpart, whose website is still active but which is currently closed to contest entries and claims to be "revamping the contest in an attempt to improve the entire system"); and www.ArtsandKids.com (the ILP's vanity arts contest for kids, which targets educators and is still soliciting entries).

17 comments:

The Word Seeker said...

Back when I was 16 I was told I was the winner of $10,000 and that my poem was going to be published and read at a convention by Montel Williams. As it turn out it was a fake and never went back to poetry.com I got the book of my poem that was published and I hate it. I hope Lulu changes things around.

Anonymous said...

Why not do a Travis Tea on them? Submit a poem similar to the bad rhyming of a Duran Duran song and see if they "buy" it!

Just the other day,
I was going on my way,
I looked back to the shore,
Life wasn't there no more.

If they buy it, then we know it's a scam.

Erin Cabatingan said...

Back in high school, I took a creative writing class and one of the requirements was that we had to send something to a publisher, or attempt to be published each semester. Poetry.com was one of the ones we could send to--I think it was fairly new at the time and out teacher didn't know much about it.

I think about half our class sent in a poem--it was probably the easiest way to try and get published--and I think we all got letters back saying we were semi-finalists. Yay!

Thankfully, with so many of us "winning" we figured out what it was and no one purchased the book. I always wondered though, if they actually put my poem in the book, or if they only put your poem in if you actually bought it.

And I did, out of curiosity, write a really bad poem and send it in, and guess what--again, I was a semi-finalist!

I know, I'm just such an amazing poet, to have almost won so many times.

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Mary B said...

I'm afraid that all this means is that ILP became too well known as a scam and will spring up again somewhere else under a new name.

Talia said...

I think Mary B's got it.

Paul Maurice Martin said...

Award Winning Haiku

So many poets
Write poems about poems
What a bore that is.

Winner of the 2009 Paul Maurice Martin “Haikus About Boring Poetry Award” – as printed in the Anthology of Boring American Poetry That Won Questionable Awards, Deluxe Edition

Frank Baron said...

One down - a few dozen/hundred to go.

Maybe, just maybe, a new version won't rise from the ashes. Maybe, just maybe, the general public's improving Google-Fu is beginning to have an effect on scam-meisters.

If so, you and Ann can take a bow for helping make that happen. Good on ya'.

Anonymous said...

I wonder why they went out of business--they've been using the same formula for dozens of years. I also hope Lulu doesn't dilute their own credibility out of greed.

We're hoping you do right by the industry, Lulu!

(Hi aka, nice to see you.)

GoodWord

Anonymous said...

They went out of business because the person that purchased the company was not very bright and put two people in charge that were not fit to be short order cooks in a restaurant. They could barely read and write.

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Yolanda said...

I have not been to the ILP site for a long time and was surprised to be directed to a different site when searching for my poems. A friend of mine has been telling me for years that it was a scam after I purchased an anthology where my poem was published. I've always wondered if there were real winners; after reading TheWordSeeker's lament about being faked of his $10,000 winning, I'm glad I stopped patronizing ILP's services, though I continued to send in my entries. No winnings for me except for "The Editor's Choice" citation for every poem I sent in and published. ILP probably published every entry, good or bad. Will someone tell me if there were really poets'conventions held in Washington D.C...or were those conventions also fake?

ehcmier said...

ALERT! A friend of mine hasn't received any money from sales of his books at Lulu. Attempts to contact them have not been answered.
Google: lulu complaints

This is happening to many people. I smell a class action lawsuit. I purchased one of my friend's books, and thankfully I received it, but all my friend received was a notice of the sale. He's owed $25 US for my purchase alone.

Anonymous said...

I, too, had a couple of poems published in the ILPs supposed legitimate anthology. This world is overrun with scum that have no conscience, and all of their integrity (I am being sarcastic)is in their pockets and "black" souls. In case they don't realize, God is omnipresent; He is everywhere at once and sees all that is occurring. He will exact his justice upon them in His own perfect time. May this bit of wisdom be seen and adhered to by you, the ILP fakers, and anyone else, for that matter, who feel the need to take unfair advantage.

mscoraboo said...

In 2008 I started writing poetry and I have posted 25 poem trying to win a contest and not one said that I have won.
I did not know poetry.com did not exsist until today (10/12/09) when I try to go to there site I found out that its now called LuLu poetry. I reg.and login with them to see if my poems would come up and it told me that I have none posted, I do not know what happen to all that I've posted.So now I'm woundering did they run or steal everyone creative work? I notice on there site that there is no where say CONTACT US!

Anonymous said...

I'm trying to figure out what is really going on with the site. When I went to poetry.com I tried to find all my poems that were written, but I am having a hard time . If lulu bought the company then they should have records of every poet and poem that was written. How do I find my poems. How to we know that you wont do the same thing as poetry.com and cheat people out of what is rightfully theirs

clmoore said...

I also published a poem thru poetry .com and have one of the anthologies....how so disenhearted I feel now...thinking I actually was a great writer....I also had been given awards and yet you sat they are fake? My bubble just burst....I really thought I was an exceptional writer and now I wonder....clmoore@yahoo.com

Eel Wind said...

But previously, I did won a bronze medal once. And I did received it at the end.