Tuesday, March 17, 2009

Victoria Strauss -- Eber & Wein: Another Vanity Anthology Scheme

Last November, readers of, among others, Parade Magazine and Cardmaker Magazine saw an announcement for a free "open amateur poetry contest". Poems of "24 lines or less" could be sent to a New York City address, and would then be eligible for $100,000 in prizes. A perk of entering: all poets would receive a "personal critique" of their poem.

There were warning signs. For one thing, the organization or company conducting the contest was not identified. Entering contests when you can't verify who's behind them is a major no-no, not just because you have no way to judge the contest's prestige, but because you can't assess its honesty. (Many people, unfortunately, seem to have assumed that because the publication where they found the contest announcement was reputable, the contest was reputable too.)

For another, short poems and big-money prizes are a hallmark of vanity anthology schemes. These schemes, which are legion, all work pretty much the same way: Ads announce a free poetry contest. Everyone who enters is "selected" as a semi-finalist, which qualifies them to be published in an anthology--and also to buy various of the company's products. Sometimes publication is contingent upon purchase, sometimes it's "optional"--but either way, author purchases are the main, if not the only, source of sales for these anthologies, which are neither marketed nor publicized, and never cast a shadow on a bookstore shelf. Because there's no editorial screening, publication in a vanity anthology is not a real writing credit--in fact, it can be a negative writing credit, since these schemes are widely known. If you list one on your writing resume, many people will conclude that you are, at best, gullible.

Last week, poets who entered the contest began hearing back, and surprise, surprise: it's definitely a vanity anthology scheme. Their responses came from Eber & Wein Publishing, located not in Manhattan, but in Shrewsbury, PA. I reproduce the letter in full, because it is such a classic piece of scheme-speak, complete with appeals to God:

Dear [name redacted],

Thank-you for sharing your poem with us. You've penned a wonderful verse, and I am excited to inform you that your poem has advanced to the semi-final round of the National Amateur Poetry Competition. Please take a few minutes to fill in the Official Contest Entry Form and return it in the enclosed self-addressed envelope. Within the next few months, we will award 126 cash and gift prizes; a list of prizes is included in the contest rules. We're looking forward to announcing the grand prize winner of $2,500.00 and feel there is a good chance it could be you.

As a semi-finalist, you've earned the honor of being published in a volume of contemporary poetry called Verses and Visions, and in a few weeks you will receive an Author's Proof. Please proofread it, make any corrections your poem, and return it to us if you wish to have your poem included in this collection. At this time, you will receive a brief critique of your poem from the editor who has been assigned to you.

Verses and Visions is a multi-volume collection of new and notable poets from around the world that will be available for sale on Amazon.com and the Barnes and Noble web site. This is a unique opportunity for you to receive a world-wide audience for your poetry. We've also included a form for you to tell us a little bit about yourself and your poetry; it is important to take this opportunity to tell the reader what inspired your writing. The statement will be printed directly below your poem. There is a small fee for this service; however, it is not necessary to have a statement included.

If you wish to purchase a copy of Verses and Visions now, we've included a pre-publication discount order form. By placing your order now you'll receive a $10.00 contributor's pre-publication discount. Please note we've selected your poem for publication because we feel it makes an important contribution to this volume. There is no need to make a purchase, and your poem may still be published even if you do not purchase a book. If you choose to own a copy of Verses and Visions and are not completely satisfied upon its arrival, then we will refund your purchase immediately.

Once again, congratulations, and may God bless your home and family. We hope you'll continue writing and reading poetry. Today there are many option for publishing your poetry, and we appreciate that your considering Eber & Wein.

Sincerely,
John T. Eber Sr.
Managing Editor


Cost for Verses and Visions: $49.95.

At least with the established vanity anthology companies, such as the gigantic Poetry.com, the prizes really are paid out, and you can be certain of receiving the anthology (or other products, such as a plaque with your poem mounted on it) if you order it. Poetry.com, Iliad Press, Sparrowgrass Poetry Forum, The Amherst Society, and many others have been around for decades, in part because they grasp the principle that so many purveyors of literary schemes fail to comprehend: you can sucker people out of their money, but if you want to stay in business, you've got to give them something in return.

Eber & Wein, on the other hand, does not appear to have been around for more than a millisecond in schemer time. This cached version (the original listing has expired) of its incorporation announcement reveals that it filed incorporation articles on January 20, 2009--nearly two months after the contest ad ran.

Of course, Eber & Wein may not be as new-minted as it seems. Existing vanity anthologizers sometimes expand or branch out out under new names, a la the endlessly-replicating Who's Who operations. Right now, though, there's no way to tell--and thus no way to judge Eber & Wein's track record of product delivery. Of the many reasons to avoid sending money to this company, that's one of the biggies, in my opinion.

55 comments:

Bradley Robb said...

With the advent of modern technology, one would hope that such an operation would at least incorporate the name of both the poem and the poet into the email.

Good catch, as always.

behlerblog said...

What's especially insidious about this is that it's advertised in a reputable magazine, which gives it an air of legitimacy. Great post, Vic. As usual, we cross-blogged. You sure you're not doing a Vulcan mind-meld?

Victoria Strauss said...

Mind melders never tell.

CAO said...

Here's the State record of the filing: https://www.corporations.state.pa.us/corp/soskb/Corp.asp?2724781

Jane Smith said...

Every week it seems that new versions of old nonsense arrive on teh internetz.

I had lunch with an independent publisher a few weeks back and he said that he's been struggling to keep going: last year was very hard and there's no immediate prospect of things improving. He could see all too well the temptation that people face when considering the vanity scheme: it's such easy money compared to publishing properly. And instead of having to validate every editing decision or choice of jacket design, he could just say yeah, whatever you want, so long as you pay for it.

Luckily he loves the books he publishes and isn't likely to change: but eugh. Really. Eugh.

BuffySquirrel said...

It's nice to know that the poems may still be published even if the author doesn't cough up. So reassuring.

Mark Orr said...

May I commend to the populace the following website, wherein vanity poetry scams are taken to task:

http://www.winningwriters.com/contests/wergle/we_guidelines.php

Feel free to examine my own feeble effort, which took an honorable (?) mention in the 2003 contest, which was, of course, the year before honorable mentions received a cash prize:

http://www.winningwriters.com/contests/wergle/2003/we03_orr.php

Victoria Strauss said...

Adding a link to Mark's comment.

Sally Zigmond said...

There was a lovely gentleman who belonged to a writers' group where I used to live. He was recovering from a stroke, had difficulty in talking and was the kindest and loveliest man I ever wished to meet. And he wasn't a bad writer either.

Somehow, he sent his poem into one of these vanity anthologies and he was so so proud when he got the letter to say he'd been selected to be published. He bought ten copies for his family and I know it was an expense for him.

Nobody had the heart to tell him the truth so we didn't. It was actually a fine and moving poem and it broke my heart to see his huge pride and his happiness.

People who make easy money out of decent people's hopes and dreams make my blood boil. You could say that nobody was hurt. The old man was so happy his pale eyes shone but even so, I am still angry on his behalf.

Tonya Root said...

It's scary. I just blogged the other day about scam artists in other industries. Just as noted in your Excuses, Excuses blog the other day, the truth is that this type of economic downturn will bring scammers out of the woodwork because this is when many people are most vulnerable. Sad that people feel the need to take advantage of people when they are at their most vulnerable point.

just being me said...

Okay, so now i really feel stupid. I entered and received the same letter that was posted here. A lesson learned, thanks for the info.

Anonymous said...

This is ridiculous! Why would someone take their time to post a fraudulent competition for poems? Sick.
What caught my attention right away was that "poems MAY BE published" if I BUY the anthology. Oh-and it's my lucky day because I get a 10% discount.
The company didn't even register legit until 1/20/2009...

t said...

I was young(like very young think KID young) and naive and actually took poetry.com seriously. My mother and I had just moved from India and we had no idea about vanity anthologies. I have since TRIED to become a serious writer and am worried about the poem I put up on poetry.com(simply as a credentials issue aka: this guy actually fell for it). Will they erase it if I ask?

Victoria Strauss said...

t, do contact Poetry.com and ask to have your poem removed--it's your poem, you have the right to do that. However, don't be too hopeful. According to what I've been told by people who have tried, Poetry.com is...not very responsive.

I wouldn't worry too much about this, though. If you don't mention your youthful Poetry.com indiscretion, odds are no one will ever know. Plus, it's not just gullible people who fall for this scheme. You definitely aren't alone.

Anonymous said...

I too was gullible, sent in the poem and received the letter you have posted. Sigh.

Victoria Strauss said...

From the UK, another recent vanity anthology scheme, this one targeted at children.

Anonymous said...

I to sent a poam to them and just got my mail today i was weak due to lost of baby sister and need a way to vent out but to you all for posting this info i didnt send a dime there should be a law to fine and charge these crooks and to fine the news paper that post untrue add and dont check out it self,i hope there check bounce when they pay them.thank you internet..mine was the philadelphia daily news i wii never trust what in this paper again

arlene said...

My name is Arlene and my friend Jay who suffers for Muscular dystrophy and writes beutiful poems . he sent one in and recieved the letter he too was so happy but then i told him that it was a scam . the federal government should find these scammers take the money that was gained by them and reward all them to the people that wrote these poems

World Changer Seeking Adventure said...

UGH! I feel like such a dumbass! This contest was posted in the Indianapolis Star & I received the same letter, sent in the $20 fee for getting your poem published. I feel like such a stupidhead b/c I fell for this too.

Anonymous said...

I too was excited to receive the letter stating i was a finalist. glad i googled the company and read the comments. it has really dumbfounded me to know that all the effort i put into this is for not. i will wait and see if they still publish by poem without me sending anything in. thanks to all for the info.

Anonymous said...

I entered the same contest and I was surprised to find out that my poem made it in. Then once I got the notification I decided that I should look up the company and found out they were a scam. Thank god I didn't send any money in, they were asking for way to much. Hopefully an investigation will go through and they'll be caught.

JediMormon said...

Poetry dot com sounded legitimate as h*ll, so I sent in a poem about Halloween I had composed long ago. After receiving an excitement-laced notice from them that I was a semi-finalist, I Googled them. (The poem, I knew, while not being 'bad', was certainly not the caliber of a contest winner, either.) A combination of being an old coot who raised 5 teens, (gullibility level=0)and the information Google provided me about Poetry dot com, made me say "yeah, right" to the breathless tone of the semifinalist claim. For the next TWO YEARS (or thereabouts), and with no encouragement from me, I received various excited emails and snail mails from them announcing this or that discount/workshop/convention/wearable vanity item/just published book with my poem in it/etc. that I should jump at the chance to fork-over $$$ for. Thankfully, they finally gave up on me. Maybe Lulu dot com will be more forthcoming people.

Anonymous said...

How sad...my 7 year old daughter received that same letter that you posted, and yes today was the next letter with the editors critique ( great peom by the way) imagine that... She was so excited!
I thank you for posting something about this, as first time parents get excited over any "contest". This has made me aware and I will let my daughter know she wrote a beautiful poem.

Thanks again for sharing this info....

autonomous7304 said...

Wow, suckered once again.

I'm in high school and a few years ago I fell for poetry.com. And here I am and I fell for this one too.
I even sent in money.

pathoulilose@yahoo.com said...

Received my second letter from Eber & Wein with false information which lead me to this site. How can People like this get away such false hope? They mention GOD, in their letter well guess what GOD, doesn't like ugly... The best part to my story is, I didn't send MONEY!

Thank GOD
LOL

Anonymous said...

Well, it seems I have finally fallen prey to a scam also!!! Thought it would never happen??!! I got the letter today and decided to look up the company---yes, it is a scam! Well, at least I didn't send them any money!!!!

I guess one is never too old to be taken-HA! M G Brown

Anonymous said...

stupid idiot says,I was scammed by Eber & Wein. Poets are very sensitive people. If someone were to commit suicide over their scam they would have a wrongful death suit on their greedy hands..

Anonymous said...

I also sent in my poem and believed it until I luckly checked the website and found it was a scam. Shame on Eber & wein. Poets are very sensitive people and if someone actually took their own life over this scam they would have a wrongful death law suit on their GREEDY hands.

Anonymous said...

Hello,fellow poets! i sent in a poem to poetry .com, and i got a letter in the mail, and it had Eber & Weins name on the letter head! Thats funny, i was so excited about the letter they sent me stating that my poem was the best, i sent in money right away, so i could get a book w my poem in it!Scammed again! By both companies! I should have went on the internet first! signed, miss Laz!

Anonymous said...

Thank you for the post. I received "the letter" a couple of weeks, if not a month, ago, and only sent the registration sheet, not the one with the discount of the anthology. I was beginning to wonder why my "critique" never came in.... Stupid me, should've done some research earlier.

Thank you

Anonymous said...

i just got my letter , but thought twice when it asked for me to pay for a copy with my poem...yea right. i said hell no and did my research, also wrote them and told them they are not auth to publish my poem.

Anonymous said...

My 14 year old submitted her poem and she got her letter back yesterday. How am going to tell her this is a scam. It's going to break her heart. She already told people about the letter.

katiebug7211994 said...

I'm only 14 years of age. My family keeps telling me that I have a real gift for poetry. My mother is reading the Houston Chronicle once day, and points out the contest to me, and I figure I'll give it a try. I just got my letter yesterday, and when it told me I was a semi-finalist I was so happy I felt like crying because I felt like I accomplished something. I told all my family, and they were so proud of me, and now I find out it's nothing, but a scam. Now I feel like I don't deserve the proud feeling my family gave me. I'm heartbroken because I felt as though this was a huge accomplishment for me. World sucks huh? Got that right.

Anonymous said...

I,too received a letter from Eber & Wein for my poem. However, instead of my poem to be published in "Verses and Visions", it was to be published in a volume of contemporary poetry called "The Wishing Well". My letter read exactly the same except with this exception. My letter is dated May 20, 20009. Has anyone else received this letter with "The Wishing Well"?

Victoria Strauss said...

Eber & Wein now has a website. For an outfit that claims to be a "publishing services provider," the book covers look pretty amateurish.

Emily Veinglory: said...

Note that the domain Poetry.com is now simply self-publishing/Lulu, not that scam publisher Watermark (which is now closed).

Anonymous said...

I received the 2nd letter from Eber & Wein. When I learned after receiving the 1st letter that the whole thing was a scam, I was a bit flabbergasted. Go Figure! Now, they want me to pay them to mount my own poem?! Excuse me E & W I'm quite capable of mounting my own work. Never have or will send any money. Now IF they ever proven themselves to be legitimate, IF I actually won a prize,If I received a bank check and IF I find the book in Barnes and Noble, THEN I'll buy the book at the store. Do not see that happening in my lifetime. Perhaps I'll incorporate myself and become my own publishing company! Good luck to you all.

Victoria Strauss said...

Folks, I'd be really interested in having copies of any letters or solicitations you've received from Eber and Wein for my files. Please contact me at beware@sfwa.org.

All information and documentation shared with Writer Beware is held in strict confidence.

JairusJames said...

I was gullible as well. I sent in a poem and later recieved a letter stating that I was a semi-finalist. Man, was I dissapointed when I saw this post. Thank GOD, that I did not send in any money for the book or the small background history. Why do people waste their time and do stupid stuff like this? I don't know...

Anonymous said...

Well, I got my 2nd letter today. The 'typeset' proof had 5 glaring errors in it - misspelled words, mixed couplet line repeated, omitted words, etc. Hope they used the original to do their 'evaluation'! Oh well, live and learn.

Anonymous said...

I to recieved a letter in the mail from Eber & Wein Publishing just yesterday. I have already been taken for money so there was no way that I was going to give this place a penny. I don't even understand how they got hold of my poem in the first place! My last poem was about the death of my mother and at the time I was kinda shaky still so to relieve that I wrote this poem and send it off to
something international. They said that the poem would be in a book and other things to. I like a idiot sent the money and waited for months and nothing. I am glad that I found this site to air my words. Thank-you!

Cindy said...

It's ashame that this site was'nt easier to find because I think that alot of people could be saved from being taken by these scam artists if they knew about them before hand. I think that it's great that people who put these sites together are wonderful,keep up the good work!
Cindy

Anonymous said...

I too received the "Wishing Well" letter....Thanks for the heads up everyone..Just received the letter today postmarked July 6..

Anonymous said...

i enetered on poetry.com and bought the book and then i found out it was a scam. I kept getting letters from them FOREVER! So then today i get a message from eber and wein and i look it up to see if it was a scam and here i am! SCAMS SUCK!

Austin Wilkins said...

Thank you for this blog. When I receaved the Wishing Well letter I felt the fishyness of the thing. I did some research and this blog was not hard to find. Your doing great work. I was actually forced to enter this poem for a grade by my AP high school english composition teacher who apperrently found the ads somewhere and forced my class to take part. She could have just unwittingly scammed my classmates and its a shame. I'm going to inform her and generally complain to anyone I feel has to do with this. Thanks.

Victoria Strauss said...

Austin, please refer your teacher to this blog--and also to the Vanity Anthologies section of the Writer Beware website, which explains in detail how these schemes work: http://www.sfwa.org/beware/contests.html#Vanity. And feel free to pass on my contact information; if your teacher wants to know more, she's free to write me: beware@sfwa.org.

Schools and teachers are often solicited by these schemes.

I'm still building my documentation file on Eber & Wein. Please contact me at the email address above if you'd be willing to send me copies of correspondence, etc. you received from Eber & Wein, or send it directly to PO Box 1216, Amherst MA 01004. All information and documentation shared with Writer Beware is held in confidence.

Anonymous said...

I got the first letter yesterday. Thought I'd better check it out because I, too, fell for the poetry.com scam. I'm not falling for this one. Thank you for sharing this information.

Ajay said...

Well there were several scammers that had similar deals. I submitted, but then smelled a skunk (forgive me, skunks) and never sent a buck to them. Cons are cons and will continue in every way.

Albert the author.

Julie said...

luckily i caught this crap before any money was sent. it's sad that in this day and age, we live in a world where everyone is trying to get one over on everyone else. this is such bullcrap. not only is this a money grubbing scheme but it's hurtful. here i thought hey maybe i do have a slight bit of talent, but now to find out i really don't and it was just a lame scam to try to get my money.....it just makes me want to run rampant with a machine gun upon whoever thought it up. in short, i've lost my faith in ever getting anything past my own eyes, and maybe in writing all together. this. just. makes. me. sick.

Anonymous said...

thank goodness for the internet!! i too got the wishing well letter posted july 28, these people will pay at some point, in this life or the next...

Anonymous said...

I just received this letter today for the Wishing Well book. Thank you for this post or I might have fell for this as well.

Anonymous said...

Hi..I sent in my poem back in Jan. received the same letter, then in March received my second letter in march, today I received my plaque 2day with my poem mounted on it. They do not have rights to my poem, so I being optimistic, I am keeping the faith maybe I or someone will win.

flowin2words said...

I just received a letter today from Eber and Wein with the same thing everyone else is getting. Mine was for the Wishing Well. Luckily I looked them up and found this web site. I didn't send any money and once I read he letter, I thought something was stank about the letter. It Looks like a standard letter sent to everybody. The address I sent the poem to was in NY, however the return address was from Shrewsbury, PA. Learned something new about contests...

*Peach* said...

I'm so glad I googled this "publishing company" before I sent the letter back in. Thanks!
Peach
reunited adult adoptee
www.PeachNeitherHereNorThere.blogspot.com

msb said...

Thanks everyone. They never asked me for money but still. One good thing came of it, I found this blog. what a score.