Victoria Strauss -- Beware Who's Who Schemes
I've been planning on doing this post for some time, but putting it off because it involved a lot of research. What tipped me over the line? The other day my husband, Rob, got a solicitation from Cambridge Who's Who.
"It is my pleasure," the letter from Editor in Chief Jennifer A. Gonzalez begins, "to inform you that you are being considered for inclusion into [sic] the 2007/2008 Cambridge Who's Who Among Executives and Professionals "Honors Edition" of the Registry." This is a major honor, Jen explains, because the Registry will include biographies of "our country's most accomplished professionals," many of whom regard inclusion as "the single highest mark of achievement." There's an application form that Rob can fill out and send back if he's the snail mail type, or if he's electronically inclined he can apply online. Just in case it occurs to him to wonder whether there's a catch, Jen hastens to reassure him: "There is no cost to be included in the Registry."
Rob lives with me (and Writer Beware), so the first words out of his mouth were "This is a scam, right?" Unfortunately, many people are much less suspicious.
There are legitimate Who's Who publishers--A & C Black in the UK, Marquis in the USA. They research the people they include, and while they'd love it if you bought the book, that's not the main reason for their existence. Cambridge and its ilk, on the other hand, are all about the hard sell. Similar to the vanity poetry anthologizers, Who's Who schemes lure customers by presenting themselves as a no-cost opportunity, but make their money by persuading people to buy books and/or memberships--often at costs exceeding $1,000. They claim to be selective, but in reality they harvest names just as junk mailers or spammers do, randomly and without regard to credentials--which means that their networking value, often touted to justify the enormous membership or purchase fee, is negligible. The bigger ones attempt to tailor their solicitations--Rob is in insurance, so he got the Executives and Professionals letter. A woman might get an invitation to the Executive and Professional Women registry. There's a solicitation for people in education. There's one for scientists. There's one for healthcare professionals. Here's an especially disgusting one targeted to people with religious affiliations.
The Who's Who gambit is a long-running, recognized telephone sales scheme about which there are a number of official warnings. There's a dizzying number of different Whos--many of which, I would guess, are run by the same people, though they're pretty good at making themselves seem separate. Here are just a few examples:
- United Who's Who (which has an unsatisfactory record with the Florida BBB for failing to respond to complaints)
- International Who's Who Historical Society (ditto)
- American Who's Who Association, which has a number of different schemes
- Premier Who's Who (formerly Prestige Who's Who, also d/b/a America's Who's Who)
- Emerald Who's Who
- Madison Who's Who (this one also has an unsatisfactory BBB record)
- Global Register's Who's Who (formerly National Register's Who's Who).
Frequently, the Whos are short-lived. Doctors' Who's Who and Nationwide Who's Who are now only Internet memories, but Google either of them and, as with the rest, you'll see people who list them as a professional credential. Ditto for Enterprise Who's Who--which suggests one reason for the schemes' short shelf life in the legacy of complaints it has left behind.
Back to Cambridge Who's Who. It's half of a two-headed hydra made up of Cambridge Who's Who (which previously did business as Manchester Who's Who and Empire Who's Who--according to a press release on Cambridge's website, these two have "merged" to become Cambridge) and Metropolitan Who's Who. Cambridge and Metropolitan do business separately, and have different websites, URL registry information, and mailing addresses. But their logo designs and their solicitation letters are identical (compare Manchester-now-Cambridge's letter with Metropolitan's)--as are their hard-sell telephone tactics.
People who answer the solicitations from Cambridge and Metropolitan report very similar experiences. (These links represent a fraction of the online discussions and complaints about Cambridge in particular.) A representative of the company phones them, congratulates them on the honor of their inclusion in the registry database, and conducts a lengthy interview, with many questions about careers, professional accomplishments, etc. Once the victim has been softened up by this process, the phone solicitor lowers the boom. The victim--who, remember, is under the impression from the initial solicitation letter that no costs are involved--is told that there are two levels of membership--a cheaper junior membership (currently close to $800) and a more expensive lifetime membership (currently nearly $1,000). This money, the victim is assured, isn't for inclusion in the database; it's for access to the database--which surely they're going to want to have, since the registry is a fantastic networking opportunity. To sweeten the deal, there are extras--gift certificates, airline ticket vouchers, a handsome award certificate, a media kit. If the victim expresses doubt about the cost, the solicitor says something like "You know what? Because I really don't want you to miss out on this fabulous opportunity, I'm going to offer you a lower rate! You'll only have to pay what a charity organization pays!" More hard sell tactics ensue. If the victim continues to resist, the solicitor hangs up on him or her--just like those magazine-sales scams where the people rudely blow you off the instant they realize you aren't going to fall for their line of bullshit.
I'm sure it won't surprise anyone to learn that Cambridge and one of its predecessors, Empire, have poor records with the Better Business Bureau (Manchester has no separate record). Empire's BBB report shows 57 complaints over the past 36 months, most involving (surprise, surprise) selling and refund practices. Cambridge's BBB report shows a stunning 150 complaints over the past 36 months, again involving selling and refund practices, and also billing and credit disputes. The bulk of the complaints--123 out of 150--have been made in the past 12 months.
Metropolitan's BBB report is currently being updated. When I viewed it in February (when I first began thinking about doing this post), it cited complaint patterns similar to Cambridge's. Some of the content of that report is reproduced by blogger T.J. at his dogscatskidslife blog.
Another thing Cambridge and Metropolitan share: a very poor reaction to criticism. The hydra really, really doesn't like it when people say bad things about it. When the Southern Conservative blog featured a satirical post about a solicitation letter from Metropolitan Who's Who, a threat of legal action quickly followed from one Cyndi Jeffers of Metropolitan (she also contacted people at the blogger's job). Blogger Shawn Olsen, whose description of his experience with Manchester Who's Who is linked in above, is being pursued by a lawyer hired by Manchester/Cambridge, who threatens a defamation lawsuit and demands $7 million in compensatory and punitive damages. These two bloggers appear not to be the only ones who've experienced this kind of harassment.
So here's my long-distance gift to all of you: a little dose of the good ol' Writer Beware suspicion that Rob has absorbed by proximity. "Money flows to the writer" is a good maxim to live by--but in cases of unexpected invitations, so is what Groucho Marx said: "I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member." If you hear from a Who--and don't assume it will be one of those I've highlighted in this post, because I wouldn't be surprised if Cambridge, at least, were thinking it might be time for a name change--don't hesitate. Toss the letter straight into the recycling bin. That is, unless you want to make fun of it on your blog.
211 Comments:
As one of the people Manchester (now Cambridge) Who's Who targeted and harrassed, I'm glad you ladies have finally been able to post about them. Kudos on digging up so much dirt on these sleazeballs. I spoke to that Jennifer Gonzalez chick myself once; she just oozed snake-oil. I'd love to see her go to jail someday.
Did you know the word "who" starts to look funny after you read it so many times?
Great post, btw. As always.
You've done a great job on this! I didn't know that Metropolitan and Cambridge were linked.
Thanks!
later...
I think I'll start a Who's Who just for physicians, and call it the Doctor Who's Who.
Thank you very much, I'll be here all week. Try the chicken.
A few people I know have received solicitations like those targeted at students. I googled the name of the organization and, sure enough, came up with a bunch of discussion board threads questioning their value, all of which had been rebutted with the same letter--word for word--from the same "member" of the organization.
The best piece of advice I've heard about these things is, if you really want to make sure you're not dismissing real credentials, save the letter. It proves you were invited to join, which says just as much as actually joining.
I got an invite from one of these things once. When I was fifteen. (Which just goes to show how long these things have been around.) I never laughed so hard in all my life. How legimate can anyone be if they're soliciting high school sophomores to be in a Who's Who of writers/poets. (That's what I get for entering a contest out of the back of a magazine.)
Good timing on this. Several months ago, I got mail from Cambridge Who's Who. "Cambridge" looked impressive, and I assumed my boss or someone in the company had recommended it. The application form said "free," so I mailed it off. I did expect some form of sale for something that would cost money, though I planned to turn it down and just take the free part.
A month or so later, I got a phone call at work from them, with a lengthy interview. Then she hit me with the either/or: I could get membership that was $600 for a specified time (I think it was three years) or lifetime for $800. She wanted a decision right now, and was even tossing in a roundtrip ticket for two. I hated being pressured and wanted to think about it overnight (and then I would have said no), but she kept pushing that she needed it right now--according to her they were on a deadline for getting everything ready for publication. Realistically, I knew this part wasn't true--if she has to interview fifty people a day all week and my last name is at the beginning of the alphabetical list she's going through, the "right now" deadline is fiction. I told her I didn't have my credit card with me, and she pressured for a promise of a time for me to call back. I did call back, got her voice mail thankfully, told her that the listing was supposed to be free, and I wasn't interested in spending money for the membership. She then called back and left me a voice mail saying that the free listing was just of my name and company and not all the other information; the membership got all the other benefits. I did not call her back, and that was the last I heard of them.
Did you know the word "who" starts to look funny after you read it so many times?
Tell me about it! By the time I finished revising the post I was having trouble telling the difference between Who, Who's, and Whos.
Please keep the first-hand accounts coming!
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Thank you so much for all your work regarding all of these writer bewares! I don't usually comment, but I do come and read regularly. Your hard work is invaluable to us all.
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I may have to list some of these soon. I think I have only one or two already listed.
I first came across this idea with a book called the "International Who's Who in Poetry". There are several publications by this title, and I find it hard to tell which (if any) are legitimate books. All of them cost a small fortune, and none are published by anyone I've heard of. The particular edition I came across, however, was this one, or one very similar. One of the poets mentioned in it was insisting it qualified them to have a wikipedia article about themselves. Sorry, no, Wikipedia has standards...
Jules, the book you linked is produced by Poetry.com, a.k.a. the International Library of Poetry, a.k.a. the most active of the vanity anthology companies.
LOL, did they ever call the wrong household or what!?
I want to read "Dr. Who" Who's Who. I love that show. It could list all the Time Lords in chronicles order.
This posting really made me laugh and shake my head... in embarrassment.
Why? Well, when I was a cocky teen girl who thought she was the greatest up-and-coming poet in the universe, I was solicited by a Who's Who of Young Poets (or some such gobbly-goo.)
Of course, I believed every lie. I was awesome, after all, and I couldn't wait to see my breakthrough poem (hold your hats... make sure you're sitting down...) "Oh Goddamned, Blessed Rain" read by millions.
Ironically, my parents put the brakes on, especially when the requests for copious amounts of money came flooding in.
In the end, "Oh Goddamned, Blessed Rain" was never published. Alas. (Though if anyone would like to see it, go to my blog page and request it. I'd be happy to share the drivel as a source of amusement.)
It still makes me giggle. What a doofus I was. Time has greatly humbled this gal.
Thank you for posting this very valuable information. You saved me a lot of money and hassle. I got the Cambridge invititation in the mail today, and threw it right in the trash. You are a life-saver.
Here is more of the truth! One of the owners of EMPIRE WHOS WHO, parted ways and created MANCHESTER WHOS WHO. Then one of these companies changed their name to METROPOLITAN WHOS WHO. Then an employee of EMPIRE WHOS WHO, left and created MADISON WHOS WHO. Then EMPIRE WHOS WHO and MANCHESTER WHOS WHO made up and created CAMBRIDGE WHOS WHO. Then an employee of MADISON WHOS WHO parted and created EMERALD WHOS WHO.
How do I know this? I worked there and the owners brag about how much money they steal and try and sue each other for copying each others scam!!!
Hmmmmm.... this gives me an idea. Maybe I should create a Who's Who of Who's Whos directory, and call up all the Who's Who organizations, and tell them they're now in the Who's Who of Who's Whos directory. That should confuse them!
Damn! Brian beat me to it. Except that I was going to make a snarky remark about the "Doctor's Who's Who": if it contains a Dr. John Smith, certain sentient pepper-shakers may be interested... can you imagine that phone call?
'For the small fee of $999.99 we can...'
'DA-LEKS DO NOT PAY SMALL FEES!'
Thank you for the informative post. I am presently a third year law student was solicited by Emerald Who's Who for Executives and Professionals. Thankfully a Google search revealed this blog entry, but not after sifting through numerous professionals using this as an accreditation.
As a new freelance writer, I am glad to have found your blog and your "writer beware" site. These predators you mention make me wonder if some of the "writers market" sites are scams, themselves. Can you suggest some reputable online writer's markets in a near-future blog so that I don't get hosed?
Thanks,
Carolyn
So , as yet another victim of their scam has anyone ever tried to get a refund? And if so were you successful? I've asked my attorney to send them a "nice" letter beside all the other gears I set in motion - still waiting for the response :)
Carolyn:
Though I'm by no means an expert, I have had success using the book version of "Writers Market". I purchase a copy every other year, and it's been a fairly reliable source for queries to consumer and trade magazines.
That being said, I have never investigated whether the agents/publishers represented in the books are legitimate or not.
AHC
Carolyn said,
These predators you mention make me wonder if some of the "writers market" sites are scams, themselves. Can you suggest some reputable online writer's markets in a near-future blog so that I don't get hosed?
I'm assuming that you mean sites that list jobs for freelancers, like Elance . I'm not aware that any are scams, but they may list scams or less reputable projects/employers because most don't seem to employ much if any screening--anyone can post a job. The burden is on the writer to carefully check out any potential job or employer to be sure they're legit.
A comprehensive print guide to magazine markets is The Best of the Magazine Markets, published by Writer's Institute Press (a division of the Institute for Children's Literature). You can check it out at the link above.
If I haven't answered your question, please drop me a line: beware@sfwa.org
I too was caught up in this scam. She didn't say "sales are final" until the very end and hung up before I could say anything. When I got home that night, I checked out their website like she said and there wasn't much to offer so I immediately called and left messages to stop and refund me immediately. I've also filed a dispute with my visa company (in the process). What about the 72 hour period to change your mind? Doesn't this apply? I never signed anything nor have I received anything. Any advice?
Call back immediately today and say you would like to cancel. Do not give a reason just insist you changed your mind and that if they fail to comply you will dispute the charge!
DO NOT SIGN FOR THE PACKAGE WHEN IT COMES, THEY WILL TRY AND USE IT AGAINST YOU SAYING YOU ACCEPTED DELIVERY!!!!
After 2 months I received by now $800 CD Rom which I returned to sender right away.
The only reason I all of the sudden got it was beacause I started making noise.
However, I'm still waiting on my refund!
Thanks for the advice about the package. I called again last night and left messages with the editor, finance director and the person who sold me the scam. I reiterated NOT to publish or process anything and that I was taking action against them. My credit card company is now handling the dispute so I pray they do a good job. I had also written to the editor/director and told her the course of events, times, who I spoke with, etc. and asked her to return my call and that I wanted a full refund. Never a response from anyone. They also overcharged me from what I was quoted. They claim I agreed to some extra $100 chg for a wood plaque which I never heard about. Plus they say they are going to charge my visa $199 in a month for some CD Rolm. I'm so mad - at myself too for getting caught in such a scam but they are good on the phone and make you feel that this will really help with networking and look good on the resume. Plus, what the heck, don't the airline tickets pay for it? Yep, everything I read here is what I went through too. I also sent this info to my credit card co. and told them that real action needs to be taken against the co.
Any other suggestions? Should I contact the Better Business Bureau? What about the media? We really need to pull together. I even said to the lady who sold me - how can you do this to people? How do they sleep at night? Some people have no ethics or morals I guess - so sad!!
oh yeah, the great airline tickets to anywhere -anytime---also have not receivd those besides everything else I was to get....never again
Thanks so much! I found your blog through a yahoo search - what a terrific resource! You highlighted a lot for me about the darker side of these things. Kudos! :0)
It's unfortunate that these companies are doing this to people. But is it really possible that all of them are ripping people off? I suggest everyone takes a look at the reputation of each company before the whole industry is bashed. Not everyone is on the same level.
Thank you so much for these posts. I just got a letter inviting me into the Cambridge Who's Who today. Of course, at first, I was downright giddy. Then I started talking to people to see who might have submitted my name. No one in my office. Talked to a friend of mine, he suggested I look online. Here I peek, and look what I find!
Thank you again, so very much.
Just got the "hard sell" a few moments ago from Cambridge. While in a state of shock and Cambridge holding on the phone--I called my accountant to authorize the $800.00 purchase. He pointed me to various complaints and blogs including yours. Thanks so much for confirming my subconscious thoughts not to give in. I sensed it was a scam and thanks to good sense--all I was provided was a "confirmation number" because I told the woman on the phone that I could not make the purhase unless it was approbved by my accountant.
Thus, we cut off one of the two heads of the hydra!
Just got the call myself (well a voicemail anyway)... I think to offer me a job rather than to put me on the list. But, given that I am not a bottom feeder, I will not be seeking employment in their general direction.
Thanks for the post-- informative and entertaining!
I am looking at a Cambridge Letter that was sent to my wife, who just laughed when she read it! However, my favorite part of the letter was the bottom tagline on the 'stationary' which stated "Cambridge Who's Who is proudly not associated or affiliated with any other Who's Who Publication or Organization."
Gee, wonder why...
I got the exact same letter you did from those people, who are certainly a scam, and I am not a professional or an executive unless newpaper thrower fits into one of those catagories and I am only 25 plus I am NOT even working now I went back to school. I think they have some way of looking at peoples' tax filing or something because I do have to file my taxes like I run a business because I am a independant contractor and this could be why the think I am a professional.
Unfortunately, I wasn't wise enough to Google Empire (or whatever) Who's Who when I got it last summer... So, I was suckered into a 1-year "silver" membership for $300+ and never received any certificate, directory, or access to this so-called prestigious web site... Any advice on how to get my money back? Or is it too late???
Thanks for any advice.
CW
I am so glad I found your blog on Cambridge's Who Who. After signing up for membershiip to the tune of $800.00 I felt uneasy about it and tried to cancel it. Of course no one returned my calls or responded to my letters. When I didn't hear from the company I filed a dispute with Amex which is where the charge was. After they contacted the company all of a sudden they produced a document of a recording that said I had been informed I couldn't cancel the membership and Amex ruled in their favor. After reading the information on your blog regarding the number of complaints filed with the BBB, and you were right, they are in the process of upding information on this company, I was able to provide it to Amex and they are running their own investigation against this company. They again have suspended the amount requested from Cambridge. I am also filing a complaint with the Attorney Generals Office. Thank you for taking the time to make others aware.
Thank you very much for this great work, I wish I have had all this information before getting Ripoff for over $800.00.from Cambridge who's who.
I received a letter from Cambridge Who's Who in late Feb informing me I was "being considered for inclusion into the 2007/2008 Cambridge Who's Who Among Executive and Professional Women in business 'honors Edition' of the Registry."
The letter further explained:The 2007/2008 edition of the Registry will include biographies of our country's most accomplished women.
Recognition of this kind is an honor shared by thousands of executive and professional women throughout America each year.
I sent back the card with my information and I got a phone call from Mr.Michael Collican Who and after a short question and answer period I was congratulated and told my biography was accepted.
After he congratulated me the sales pitch commenced,The price for being included in this edition ranged from $189 - $789 and mor for VIP plus $ 29.95 for sh&H of a packge. I tolled him I don't know anything about this company and he said that all the information is going to be send out to me and he asked for my credit card #, after few hours after work I Googled this company and found out that I have been scamd.
More people like us need to step forward regardless of embarrassment or other concern for being initially taken, to put these folks in their place, so others will not be taken advantage of moving forward.
Thank you,
Sarah
I got a call from the Cambridge Who's Who today. When they told me I had to sign up and pay now or I would lose my chance to be in the registry, I told them that any "professional" person who was deserving of this "honor" would never pay $1000 without checking into all of this. It was the gift card that had me laughing. I really thought I was being honored! Now that I've googled this, I see I made the right choice.
Anyone who gets one of Cambridge's letters might want to watch Glengarry Glen Ross first if you haven't already seen it. Just a suggestion.
I just received a Cambridge Who’s Who in the mail and my (good) knee-jerk reaction was to look up “who” they were. Alas, I came upon many sites including this one and I’m glad I did.
First of all, I was just recently laid off from a job. Even though I have been pursuing writing for years, this is not my source of income, nor does my resume reflect any sort of exclusive, outstanding background, so why would I be included in such a list of “accomplished professionals? It didn’t help that they also misspelled my last name twice.
It is sometimes hard enough to get your work “out there,” but to get a letter like this and hearing about so many other scams, it makes things that much harder. This is unfortunate for a field such as writing where new, creative, insightful authors should be encouraged rather than become discouraged by having to go through minefields.
Normally, I would’ve simply tossed the letter without posting a comment, but I’m starting to believe that “organizations” like Cambridge do a lot of harm by inhibiting potential excellence by adding more cynicism into the mix.
thanks so much for the info...just got the e-mail from emerals who's who, and i thought i'd check it out first. luckily, your post came up on google! you totally confirmed my suspicions! thanks!!
thanks soooooooo much for the info; when i read the letter this woman called jennifer gonzalez sent me, somehow something made me think, this is a scam; i mean it sounded so suspicious; one day she'll appear on the who's who scam experts!!!!!!!!!
I just got off the phone with a lady from the cambridge whos who. I told her i had to think about the decision and she told me that I had to make the decision while she was on the phone with me. No calling back.
Well I told her that if CWW was and organization that had as its goal to put together a list of accomplished professionals as they claim then they would be willing to wait so as to insure the itegrity of their list. She claimed that they had publishing deadlines to meet and that she had to know now. I asked if she were going to be making calls tomorrow and of course her answer was yes. Well then you can wait untill tomorrow because obviously you will be adding names to the list then. She then restated that they are the fastest growing networking directory in the industry and they have 200,000 members. I asked to see an example of this directory so that I could get a preview of what I would be paying for. she said that I had to be a member to get a username and password and there was no demo account. From the sound of the callcenter buzz int the background and hard sell tactics it is no wonder why they are the fastest growing directory.
I told her that i would be honored to be published in her free directory and got off the phone.
THIS IS ABSOLUTLY A SCAM. Preditors like this should go to jail and receive negative Karma points.
Here is a good trick, If you want to see a listing of the hundreds if not thousands of people who have fallen victim to this scam type this into the google search box.
site:cambridgewhoswho.com
Every page of their directory has been crawled by the google spider. I member's profile page will appear like this (not an actual link):
http://www.cambridgewhoswho.com/profiles/FirstNameLastName-SomeNumber.cfm
Enjoy the list.
Adding a link to the above:
site:cambridgewhoswho.com
Worth checking out.
Thanks to all of you who've shared your experiences with Cambridge, Emerald, etc. Our blog traffic has increased by at least 25% as a result of this post, from people searching for information on the various Who's Whos--just another indication of how incredibly active these solicitation schemes are.
Okay, so I'm an idiot and actually gave them my credit card information. This was before I checked them out on the web. Is there anyone that has actually received a refund? If so, how did you do it? Do I need to threaten legal action? What legal action can I take. I feel so stupid
I filled out the whole Cambridge Whos Who, thinking that they wanted to actually recognize me for my engineering accomplishments. Once I received the call, it was very apparent that this was a money driven scam. The women was obviously reading from a book, with many catchy pre-packaged lines to make me feel like a big man... Well, I could see right through it. She eventually went for the hard sell and I said that I wasnt interested. Then she got pretty aggressive saying that it was my "last chance." After telling her that I thought it was a scam, and that I could have signed up my cat for this and gotten the same treatment, she hung up the phone, and moved to someone perhaps a little more gullable. DONT WASTE YOUR TIME!!!
I wish I would have read this before I got the call from a lady named Kris Monte from Cambridge Who’s Who. The procedure was similar: several questions about how I became such an accomplished professional, my career goals etc. then the membership. I asked for days to make decision, and was told of a lower rate 3-yr membership. And gave her my credit card information. I went online and googled the Who and realized that I was just scammed. I called the lady right back within one hour to cancel the membership, she told me she was not responsible to cancel it since everything was already in processing, only the financial department could take care of it. And she did not have the contact information (phone, email) of the financial department. She said she would forward my request to the financial dept immediately and the financial dept would contact me within this business day… I was so mad at myself for being fooled. I called my citibank credit card company to block the charge from CWW, and was told that they could only dispute the charge after it shows up on my bill, so I will have to call the credit card company later for the charge.
What a day!
I sure wish I had read this blog prior to the phone call I just had from Cambridge Who's Who! Unfortunately, I am of the gullible variety of humans...I had a gut feeling that it was a scam, but let the "wow you are great" spiel take over..plus I liked the thought of 2 airline tickets! My husband then found this website - I am now going to attempt to get my money back. Wish me luck...
I am back here to update my story on June 26,11:20am. I found the phone number in the invitation letter, called the number and left a message " I got your invitation letter and have some questions about the membership, please call me at.....". Not after long a lady from the Cambridge Who's who called me back, very possible considering me as a potential member. I told her I just joined the WHO in the morning and would like to cancel my membership because I need more time to research the institute before joining. ~{!0~}is it because of the charge, how about I give you a lower subscription: 1 years membership of ~~$110, you still get the benefit of air ticket~{!-~}.~{!1~}, I interrupted her and insisted that I need time to consider. She told me everything has been processed during the first call and a package is sending to me soon. I argued about the package, it's no way that the package already on the way within such a short period, and good service always include try and return policy. She said they had this one time deal (no trial, no return) because they have thousands of accomplished members to take care of and not enough personnel and time for cancellation. Then I asked her to give me some member~{!/~}s contact so I could learn about the quality about the WHO from them. She immediately told me I had to be a member to get in touch with other member. Then I said ~{!0~}that~{!/~}s fine, since you have thousands of members, it should be easy for me to get online and ask their opinion on your organization, I don~{!/~}t need any contact from you~{!1~}. The lady was angry at the end, and told me ~{!0~}OK, I will withdraw your application, and the consideration of inclusion is no longer available to you any more.~{!1~} END OF STORY.
One good thing is that they do allow me to withdraw the membership but it is really an annoying experience.
I wish Deanna good luck.
Victoria... this is a great blog!!! we should all stand together to make sure that EVERYBODY knows what a scam this company is. oh boy, do i hope that their attorneys attempt to contact me because i will take the harrasment public. The internet will be the small scale of it. i am NOT ashamed or embarrased for being scammed only because I confused them for the real estate "who's who in luxury real estate" it was later when i checked my credit card bill that i realized it was a Metropolitan Who's who. I did a quick search but saw that they had a website so i dropped it. I joined the lifetime membership and was promised a book and all these other things. they had told me that they would send me my id for the website and i never even received a letter from them to welcome me to the club. but then what happened was that i forgot about it and 6 months later they called me to tell me that the book has been delayed and that they were getting ready to send it out but that they needed an additional $400 last time fee for some other bullshit. i screamed at the person on the other line and told them to get that book out to me asap. they told me that it was on its way. then about a week later i received the tickets which i still have but have not called to check how valid they are (that is my next project). I had again forgotten about it and then they called me again 2 weeks ago to verify my mailing address because they were getting ready to send out the book to me. this is the same call that i got 6 months ago. the person again called me to tell me that they needed another $300 for some lifetime bullshit and that this would be the last time. They even repeated my credit card number back to me and were asking me for authorization to charge on that account. i told them absolutely NOT. and that if i saw a charge on that account i would report them. i told him to send me that book for it had been a year since they had charged me the first time which was ALOT! I still have the credit card receipt. i was yelling at the person and that person just replied to me: Are you sure you dont want to make this charge... it is only $300. I said I have NO money i am broke living under a bridge. then he said ok, have a nice life. How scary is that. that is when i decided that after my vacation i had to attack back. i may loose this money, but i will MAKE sure everybody out there knows everything there is to know about this company and hope other people are not victimized. I also read in your blog that attorneys were calling the victims... boy do i hope they call me. Because i will make this a VERY ugly and public case for them. I am not afraid and refuse to allow those attorneys to try to intimidate me. I have NOTHING to loose. they have all to loose. that is the difference and that is what people have to remember... that we were the victims. we are the ones being called and harrassed by their company. how dare they come back to us to try to threaten us when we are merely speaking OUR experience with the company. we are entitled to our opinion... especially in a case where the company contacted me first and not only once but on 3 different occasions asking for money. so yes i hope their attorneys contact me.
I received a second letter today and again assumed it was some sort of solicitation. The issue that I have is that somehow this letter was sent to me under my new, married name which I just changed this month. I just this week received my updated driver's license. How is it that they've come by this information so quickly? What access do they have to my personal information? Maybe one of you curious types out there would want to take some effort to further investigate their data collection practices.
Got one too-it's now in the trash! Another potential victim saved from these people- wonder what their next scheme will be if they never get busted??? BE WARY OF THE MAIL...
I also received the invitation, decided to play with them. I am a born skeptic and the more I am pushed the more my feet plant. Got the congrats call this morning wanting to know if it was a good time for me to answer a few further questions. I told them it depends on how long it'll take them to get to the money part. Chris did not like that, told me to never mind, that she had already "made her decision". So is it a compliment to be rejected and unacceptable to a scammer? I suspect they avoid people who may be too much trouble and yes, it IS a scam. Their telephone number shows as "531" in caller ID.
I just got a call here at work from Cambridge Who's Who. I forgot that I ever filled out the form a few months ago. The woman had such a nice voice that would make anyone think it was real except for someone like myself that does not trust anyone. I went through the steps about being published thinking all was cool, then she dropped the big bomb on me stating I had to pay money. Told her, I don't have any money to spend on something like this. She tried every which way to get me to pay for a subscription, but I told her I was not going to give my credit card over the phone to anyone I don't know. I said send me something in the mail or e-mail and I would check it out. She was not happy. I told her that she does not need to publish my name now cause I won't give her any money. The call ended. I Googled right away Cambridge Who’s Who & found this site. So happy to see other people had the same thing happen to them. I am mad that I even was on their list cause I am signed up to not get Junk Mail. Guess this one slipped through the cracks. Thanks!!
thanks ! this company found me on monster.com & wanted me to interview with them IMMEDIATELY...the first clue that it was a scam was the way he kept running around my questions about the company and their practices. he kept saying the company name very fast also when giving me his whole spiel about what it was. anyway, the final part that made me realize this company was a ripoff is when they told me with commission i would be making 70-90,000$ per year....im 21 and only have my associates, that just isn't feasible at this moment in time, so i did my research on the internet just to make sure my paranoia wasn't creeping in, and nevertheless, i was correct. thanks for the information so i don't waste my time interviewing !!
I got one of those Madisons Who's Who. I don't know why cause I'm just a home maker. It gives me a giggle to think that people will do anything to get someones money. I laughed so hard I had an accident!:))
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thanks for the informative post!!!
I too recieved one of those letters. I filled it out and sent it in months ago, just got a call back about it today. The questions she asked made me suspicious, and I told her I was driving and didn't have my credit card with me. She said that I HAD to give it to her, I again repeated I was driving, and she told me to pull over. So I said "fine"... she asked if I had found a place to stop yet, and I said sure.... she again asked for the credit card number. So I said it's "2468, 1357...." and hung up. She tried to call me back, but I didn't answer and she didn't leave a message... oh well, guess my phone just didn't get good reception while I was 'driving' :)
Thanks for the blog... unfortunately I joined. :-( It was a bad decision, thought it would be good for my company to network. It was $600 for that junior membership and another $289 for the book. I'm gonna try and cancel that order.. wish me luck. But they definitely soften you up with all the questions. :-( There's no one really in their network.. just people like me who are gullible and can't stand up for themselves.
I am terribly embarrassed about having to post this blog. Last week I too was scammed by Cambridge Who's Who!!! I received a call about 2 years ago about being published in their book, and all of my "recongnition" and "accomplishments" as a professional..blah blah blah....you all know the deal. I gave them my credit card for one hundred dollars or so, and they left me alone for a while.
Stafanie Taylors 516 535 1515 ext 252 called me on a Thursday or Friday and preceeded to tell me how fortunate I was to have been one of the 1% chosen to receive a VIP membership. OH BOY!!!!!!!! I get my picture and accomplishments, etc posted on a full 1/2 page of their book. Blah, blah, blah. I was excited as I am a upcoming professional in my area, and throught this was a great experience to get my name out!!! (Much to my dismay I was scammed for 619.34 on my CITI bank mastercard). Stefanie was such a smooth talker that I did not even realize that she was going to "use the credit card on file" to bill me for the "FREE VIP MEMBERSHIP" she had made mention of earlier in the conversation. I was taken right down the same path the rest of these Bloggers have taken. I am very embarrassed about it.
I called back within 4 days or so to speak with Stefanie Taylors and she would not return my calls. A Robert Sullivan 516 535 1515 ext 370 called to inform me that he had a "Taped conversation" of me agreeing to the amount being charged on my credit card. He was extremely rude, and told me that I was basically "out of luck". I preceeded to ask him if this was how CWW did routine business, and he did not want to hear my complaints. I was at work, and I cut the converstaion short.
I then called my Citi bank card to tell them of the situation. One of the account managers is currently working with me. She has made a temporary "Credit" on my account until the "Dispute" is investigated by CITI card, and they (CITI CARD) would be in contact with the merchant.
I am waiting on pins and needles because I have better than excellent credit, however I do not plan on paying this bogus charge. I will just take a ding on my credit, close the account, and not have a CITI card account. I hope everyone reads this ahead of time.
I wish I had made an investigation ahead of time as well. But, who knew we would get scammed by what we thought was a legitimate business.
Good luck to everyone with a claim or dispute with Cambridge Who's Who!! I will spread the word via email and word of mouth about what "SNAKES" they are!!!!!
Hi everyone,
I was caught completely unawares and I fell for the scam myself. I just came back from vacation and was woken up this morning by a rep from Cambridge Who's WHo. She asked plenty of questions and when it came time for that sell, I fell for it. I talked and yesed her just to get off the darn phone. Pretty expensive way too since it is probably gonna cost me the junior membership price of $700.
I wish I did the research online first but at the very least they won't be able to charge me for the book. I called up my credit card company and hd them change my card number.
I also had similar issues with my credit card. Once a charge goes into the approval stage, the best that you can do is to wait for it and then put it into dispute. The way I see it, while they have a recording of me saying go ahead and charge my card, it is a service we are paying for. Service hasn't been rendered yet and I intend on making sure that it doesn't go through. I shouldn't have to pay for a service I haven't received. So, like others before me, wish me luck in getting through and getting a refund.
A Robert Sullivan 516 535 1515 ext 370 called to inform me that he had a "Taped conversation" of me agreeing to the amount being charged on my credit card. He was extremely rude, and told me that I was basically "out of luck".
I've gotten a number of reports of this particular intimidation tactic used by the Whos. I would guess that such high-pressure tactics would qualify as duress, and I believe that, depending on what state you're in, the use of duress makes a contract or agreement voidable by the person who is under duress.
At any rate, duress is something to mention to your credit card company when you're disputing the charge (be sure also to give them the URL of this post), or to a lawyer if you seek legal counsel.
Another sucker here from last week. I was told they only needed my card # to know how to begin processing the application. I was under the impression that I wouldn't be charged until I received and looked over and signed my package. Needless to say I was charged $618.95 that same day. I have called my credit card company (Bank of America) and they told me to try to call them and cancel it first but that they would make a note on my account. They then provided the dispute charge form online and told me to not accept the package when (and if) it comes and requires a signature.
Arggg! Frustrating! I could go on, but let's just see how far we get. Any updates on refunds people? Heck, at this point I'd give them $50 just to get out of this mess. I'll be sure to dispute it through my credit card company if Who's Who doesn't cancel for me.
Anyone actually get Who's Who to cancel and refund the charges yet?
Thanks and good luck to the other who were suckered.
I just received their letter about being specially chosen to be a part of their "Executive and Professional Women." And I almost
fell for it. I looked at their website and thought okay, not too bad.
I am so glad I also decided to do a Google search on them and found your blog. Thank you, thank you, thank you! You just saved me a lot of money and aggravation.
Thank you for the "Duress" comment. I just happened to get my CITI bank dispute letter today, and sat down at my computer to write my letter. I saw you post, and decided to add your website to my letter.
I am so sorry for everyone that gets scammed by these people. Great website ladies!!! Keep up the good work! Thank you.
I'm very curious; did Writer Beware become the target of any threats of legal action by these people? I'm sure this blog has been an excellent resource for a lot of people that could have been taken in by this scam. I wonder if it's caught their attention yet.
Laura, I may be jinxing myself by saying this...but no, Writer Beware hasn't heard anything at all from Cambridge, or any of the other Whos. If they're like most outfits that prey on writers, they only go after the people they know they can intimidate.
Thank you, thank you for blogging about this. I just got one of the "Professional Women" solicitations, and having been in my position for only three months, found it particularly fishy. Like any good cynic, I Googled them immediately, and yours was the first entry I saw that wasn't all glowing comments or from the group themselves. SO glad for your explanation. You saved me a lot of time!
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I knew this sounded too good to be true. It seemed fishy to me. Hats off to you for exposing them.
Well I can be added to the list.
I received my ego letter from Cambridge who's who today 8/21/2007. Being duped a very long time ago for my poetry...I know nothing is ever free. Suspecting something fishy, I started searching and found my suspicions valid.
The main reason I became wary is I just recently started to tread the surface of free-lance writing. So why would anyone want to reconize me for my accomplishments? How could I be accomplished, being new at the trade. There is no way I've made any real accomplishments, except with a couple of small publications, which I am thrilled about, but my goodness it is only a start.
Thawwwwrrrrt to them, playing on peoples sensitive fragile emotions.
Thank you very much for taking the time to research"Cambridge Who's Who). My intuition felt it wasn't legit. So I did a search and I had to understand who was Blogging or bragging!
Thank you again for your're eye opening article .
Once again thanks I got one today also and new it was fishy heck coming from my past background they would definately not wont me lol. I think I might fill it out and when they call and they ask me what I do etc tell them I am a professional drug dealer and say heck I though you all got my name from the prison when I killed that guy for trying to rob someone hehe.
Hrmmm I think ill do it I love having fun with people like this.
THanks again
Thanks! Just got off the phone with Cambridge Who's Who, and the talk started out with everything being free (although, of course, they never *said* that word), and so as soon as they started talking about money, the jig was up. I was disappointed, of course, that it's all a scam, but hey--so it goes! Amazing how quickly they lower the price of membership and start adding on crazy gifts when you balk... And then, of course, it's amazing what you'll actually end up with if you say no: they go from trying to sell all of these wonderful wonderful things to, "Well, fine then, go to http://www.cambridgewhoswho.com/basiclisting/ and put in your own damn name!"
I vote we spam the basic listings: I just put in a totally fictitious name and address and submitted it. Unfortunately I can't look to see if it's been posted, since I'm not a member. Any members wanna look and see? I think I used the name Jackson Howland (last name might be incorrect), and put my position as professor, company as Harvard, and city as Boston, MA.
Now I feel better! :)